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This has never been done before!!!!

SJL saw a need and we brought it to you.

Are you tired of the endless safety philosophy debates?

Are you ready to make a real impact?

So are we... but first let's clear the air...

What better way to do that than host a debate between two of the most decorated leaders from the BBS & HOP movements?

No other show has the balls to bring you a confrontation like this.

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